Dayne may not technically have participated in wars that we know of (strangely for you kills on a battlefield don’t count, but kills in fuels outside the battlefield do count. If the Smiling Knight is a bandit, then Gregor Clegane is a thug who kills defenseless women. In fact, the most absurd claim, that Maelys had a second ungrown head, has been verified by the appearance of his skull in Chapter 24 of ADWD. TWOIAF is the only source to go into detail on Maely’s the Monstrous, it’s also the source you base your claims about horseback on (while clearly ignoring the plain text on page 112 that it was done in single combat), and in context the Maester has no reason to lie, as well as a habit of giving accurate information or second guessing what he believes to be implausible in the text: the head ripping and horse killing is stated as absolute fact on a subject with other scholarly sources. Barristan “cut a bloody path through the Golden Company to reach Maelys” who he “slew in single combat.” Riding on horses isn’t stated, just in one image interpretation, I can find others which have it on foot (though are you going to say “it’s on horseback so it doesn’t count”?).
Barristan Selmy’s display against Titan’s Bastard is arguably a superhuman demonstration of skill, and then there’s stuff like the dead being raised. A hammer almost too heavy for a healthy grown man to lift wouldn’t be very useful in combat, but Robert one hands a hammer that Ned “could scarcely lift”. We have an eyeball witness that Maelys had a skull growing out of his other skull. Someone who is 7 foot 10, like the Mountain, isn’t liable to be a great fighter, even with height edge because at that point speed and dexterity petering off outweighs it. Barristan was wounded at least three times with three different weapons in the process.Ĭlick to shrink.Humans in fiction don’t always act exactly like humans in real life do. After cutting through his bodyguard detail, made up of, again, the greatest mercenaries on the planet.Įxhibit two: the Defiance at Duskendale, where Barristan climbed the walls, grabbed Aerys, and fought his way out with an arrow in his chest, killing at least three men in the process.Įxhibit three “you killed a dozen good men”: Barristan Selmy killed a dozen men, at forty six, that either Edward Stark or Robert Baratheon personally knew, and personally knew to be skilled warriors, out of a baseline of castle trained nobles. His upper body was “grotesquely huge” on a frame so large that his skull was identifiable as larger than the skulls of all the other captain generals.īarristan killed him when he was twenty three.
Show Sandor probably wins 7-8/10, Book Barristan probably wins 6-7/10, Young Barristan cleans Sandor out.Ĭlick to shrink.I’m going to stop you right there:Įxhibit one: Maelys I Blackfyre, leader of the most feared and successful mercenary company on the planet, strong enough to kill a warhorse with a punch and ripped his cousin’s head off with his hands.
That said, I think this is a little flimsy.īook Barristan killed two Gold Cloaks without his weapons (so he either used theirs or killed them with his fists and feet), beat the Titan’s Bastard with a stick, and walked over a top pit fighter. There’s actually an argument for Show Barristan in that the Hound struggled to beat 5-6 Lannister men at arms while Barristan took down about fourteen sons of the harpy (who were trading about evenly with Unsullied), before dying, at least eight before injury, and he wasn’t wearing armor, as he doubtlessly trained, and if he had then he would have survived.
I’ve never been able to really quantify the sheer forces involved, but from my understanding that requires a greater level of strength than what Gregor did to Oberon Martell. He grabbed his brother’s head, twisted, and tore the thing off, tearing through bone, skin, and muscle in the process. Click to shrink.Maelys didn’t merely kill a horse with a punch.
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